KP4 output an inverted AND upside down MP4 from VOB

[JackTheKing]

Greetings -
Maybe I missed something really obvious, but Kinoma Producer 4 is outputting all my files inverted and upside down. Sure I can rotate my ipod or Treo, but the words are still backwards.

I am converting from DVD VOB to both Treo MP4 (MPEG-4) and iPOD MP4 (H.264).

Whuut i miss?

[JackTheKing]

Per this post http://forum.kinoma.com/showthread.php?t=657

I tried using Gspot but it only supports avi, ogm, ogg? My computer is pretty clean and I can't imagine how a bad codec got on there. Is there another utility to track this down?

yeah - i'm an idiot - gspot works fine as log as you know how to use a dropdown box. sheesh.

These are my codecs according to gspot -
Is there an issue with any of these?


DMO WMVA WMVideo Advanced Decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> wmvadvd.dll
DMO G2M3 G2M Session Decoder Citrix Online, a division of Citrix Systems, Inc. qasf.dll --> G2M.dll
DMO MP4S Mpeg4s Decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> mp4sdmod.dll
DMO WMV Screen decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> wmsdmod.dll
DMO WMVideo Decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> wmvdmod.dll
DMO MP43 Mpeg43 Decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> mp43dmod.dll
DMO MPG4 Mpeg4 Decoder DMO Microsoft Corporation qasf.dll --> mpg4dmod.dll
DSH Arcsoft Mpeg Encode Filter ** Codec not registered
DSH DV Video Encoder qdv.dll
DSH HPOD RunTimeline Filter Hewlett-Packard Company HPODRunTimelineFilter.dll
DSH Indeo® video 5.10 Compression Filter Intel Corporation ir50_32.dll
DSH LEAD MCMP/MJPEG Codec LEAD Technologies, Inc. LCODCCMP.DLL
DSH MJPEG Compressor quartz.dll
DSH Nero Digital Video Encoder Ahead Software AG NeNDVid.ax
DSH MPEG1 MPEG Video Decoder quartz.dll
DSH DIVX DivX Decoder Filter DivXNetworks, Inc. Divxdec.ax
DSH LEAD MCMP/MJPEG Decoder LEAD Technologies, Inc. LCODCCMP.DLL
DSH MP43 Microsoft MPEG-4 Video Decompressor Microsoft Corporation mpg4ds32.ax
DSH DVSD DV Video Decoder qdv.dll
DSH DIVX DivX Decoder Filter DivXNetworks, Inc. Divxdec.ax
DSH MSS1 Microsoft Screen Video Decompressor Microsoft Corporation msscds32.ax
DSH WMV1 Windows Media Video Decoder Microsoft Corporation wmvds32.ax
DSH WMV2 Windows Media Video Decoder Microsoft Corporation wmv8ds32.ax
DSH IV41 Indeo® video 4.4 Decompression Filter Intel Corporation ir41_32.ax
DSH IV50 Indeo® video 5.10 Decompression Filter Intel Corporation ir50_32.dll
DSH MJPG AVI Draw quartz.dll
DSH Video Port Manager quartz.dll
DSH AVI Decompressor quartz.dll
DSH QTRpza QT Decompressor quartz.dll
DSH MJPG MJPEG Decompressor quartz.dll
DSH Nero Video Decoder Ahead Software AG NeVideo.ax
DSH Nero DVD Decoder Ahead Software AG NeVideo.ax
DSH CyberLink Video/SP Decoder DELL 5.3 CyberLink Corp. CLVSD.ax
VFW CVID Cinepak Codec by Radius Radius Inc. qcap.dll --> iccvid.dll
VFW I420 Intel 4:2:0 Video V2.50 Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> msh263.drv
VFW IV32 Intel Indeo(R) Video R3.2 qcap.dll --> ir32_32.dll
VFW IV41 Intel Indeo® Video 4.5 Intel Corporation qcap.dll --> ir41_32.ax
VFW IV50 Indeo® video 5.10 Intel Corporation qcap.dll --> ir50_32.dll
VFW IYUV Intel IYUV codec Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> iyuv_32.dll
VFW M261 Microsoft H.261 Video Codec Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> msh261.drv
VFW M263 Microsoft H.263 Video Codec Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> msh263.drv
VFW MRLE Microsoft RLE Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> msrle32.dll
VFW MSVC Microsoft Video 1 Microsoft Corporation qcap.dll --> msvidc32.dll

[dev]

The codec list is definitely appreciated, but without seeing the results from the 'Render' button, it's hard to know which codec is actually being used (and thus which is causing the problem).

I think Producer has some code that flips the video in some cases to work around some codec bugs, so it could either be triggering unnecessarily or not triggering in this case.

I'm going to guess that the video decoder in use in this case is "DSH Nero DVD Decoder Ahead Software AG NeVideo.ax". Perhaps they fixed this in a more recent version of Nero/NeroDigital?

[alan]

The codec list is definitely appreciated, but without seeing the results from the 'Render' button, it's hard to know which codec is actually being used (and thus which is causing the problem).

I think Producer has some code that flips the video in some cases to work around some codec bugs, so it could either be triggering unnecessarily or not triggering in this case.

I'm going to guess that the video decoder in use in this case is "DSH Nero DVD Decoder Ahead Software AG NeVideo.ax". Perhaps they fixed this in a more recent version of Nero/NeroDigital?

hi, dev,

with you,
try using GSpot to identify the codec being used (select 'Render'), uninstall it, and reinstall an alternative codec, such as Divx5, Xvid, ffdshow, or 3ivx.

can you post more tips about this?

[thready]

Do you get sound on your Kinoma Producer encoded output for playback on your device?

I guess you do ??? as you dont mention this.

I have the latest Kinoma Player/Producer bundle for use on a Palm Tungsten T3 and latest XP windows software, drivers etc. With no sound on Producer output. PC or Palm T3. Other encoders are fine... (e.g. AVS encoder)

Conned?

The KINOMA BOXTER DEMO plays back fine with sound and reasonable video quality.

Any ideas or should I shelv this product and demand a refund?